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(msLhUr iPlm adfkfr Em purI nfl kIqI ieh mulfkfq pihlI vfr vqn dy akqUbr/nvMbr/dsMbr-1992 dy ivsLysL mulfkfq aMk ivwc CpI sI. sLfied EmpurI dy iPlmI sPr AuWpr ivsQfr pUrbk Jfq pvfAux vflI pMjfbI ivwc CpI ieh pihlI mulfkfq sI. hux asIN ies nUM vqn dy vYWbsfeIt AuWqy Cfp rhy hF qF ik ieh ijLafdf lokF nUM pRfpq ho sky.)

svfl: swB qoN pihlF qusIN sfnMU afpxy ipCokV bfry dwso?
jvfb: mYN jMimaf qF aMbfly sI pr mYN irhf pitafly hI hF qy Aus nMU hI afpxf sLihr mMndf hF. kflj vI AuWQy igaf. jdoN mYN surq sMBflI sI qF biTMzf, rfmf mMzI, PIrojLpur, afid QfvF qy myrf pflx hoieaf. bfad ivc mYN nfnky ipMz snOr pVHx lwg ipaf. iPr Kflsf kflj pitafly pVHx lwg ipaf. Pst eIar rYguUlr kflj, sYkMz eIar eIvinMg kflj qy Qrz eIar korspoNzs (zfk rfhIN) nfl pfs kIqy.

dsvIN jF blik kih lE awTvIN qoN bfad mYN afpxy afp isr sI. nOvIN jmfq ivc mYN itAUsLn pVHfAuNdf sI qy afpxf Krcf qordf sI. kflj tfiem ivc mYN iek vkIl kol klrk df kMm krdf sI. kflj ivc mYN “lYb aisstYNt” vI sI. vkIl CuwtI nhIN sI idMdf huMdf. mYnMU Xfd hY ik iek vfrI cMzIgVH XUQ PYstIvl ivc sfzf p®ogrfm sI. vkIl kihMdf ik CuwtI nhIN dyxI. mYN ikhf qF afh PV afpxI nOkrI. iPr jdoN bfkI muMizaF nMU pqf lwgf ik mYN nOkrI Cwz idwqI hY qF sfiraF ny p®oPYsrF nMU ikhf. AunHF ny kflj dy ip®MsIpl sMq isMG syKoN sfihb nfl gwl kIqI qy mYnMU “lYb aisstYNt” dI nOkrI iml geI. mYnMU sfieMs df kuwJ pqf hI nhIN sI ikAuNik mYN qF afrt df stUzYNt sI. Aus qoN bfad itvfxf sfihb (hrpfl itvfxf) nfl mulfkfq hoeI. AunHF ny mYnMU jwj dy qOr qy XUQ PYstIvl ivc dyiKaf hoieaf sI . iPr mYN kflj dI nOkrI Cwz ky AunHF nfl hI iQeytr ivc Puwl tfiem kMm krn lwgf. iqMn sfl lfey. AunHF nfl hI pihlI vfrI bMbeI gey. ieh sLfied 1968-69 dI gwl hY. pUny sLoa kIqf sI. kfPI cMgy plya kIqy sn.

svfl: kflj ivc ikho ijhy nftk krdy sI?
jvfb: kpUr isMG GuMmx df kIqf sI “axhoxI”. iek vMn aYkt sI “smuMdroN pfr”. pihlF pihl kpUr isMG GuMmx dy hI kIqy iqMn cfr. iQeytr df kIVf itvfxf sfihb kol afky pwk igaf. skUl tfiem qy qF afrmI ivc jfx dI idlcspI sI, POjI bxn dI. mYN POjIaF nMU ieAuN dyKdf huMdf sI ijvyN lok iPlm stfrF nMU dyKdy hn. ikqy rylvy stysLn qy koeI lYPtInYNt ids pYxf vDIaf muwCF vflf, isqfry afid lgfey hoxy qy PwbdI pwg bMnHI jF topI pfeI hoxI qF Auuh mYnMU bVf hI cMgf lwgxf. nfly AuhnIN idnI lokIN POjIaF nMU mMndy vI sI qy ipafr vI bhuq krdy sn. skUl ivc aYn[ sI[ sI[ qy skfAut vgYrf vI juafien kIqy. mYN mnItr huMdf sI qy KyzF ivc vI cMgf vDIaf huMdf sI.

svfl: iPr itvfxf sfihb nfl nftk hI kIqy jF ikqy koeI hor kMm jF nOkrI vI krdy sI?
jvfb: nhIN pUrf vkq nftk hI kIqy. Bfv JfVU qoN lY ky tuafilt sfP krn qwk iksy cIjL dI koeI sLrm nhIN sI. postr vI ilKdy sI qy postr izjLfeIn vI krdy sI. mqlb ik iQeytr df pUrf kMm. mYN hI iek bMdf sI ijsnMU qnKfh imldI sI. bYk styj df pUrf kMm mYN krdf sI. prPfrmYNs dy pYsy mYnMU nhIN imldy sn. AuQoN bfad mYN nYsLnl skUl afP zrfmf juafien kIqf. iqMn sfl qoN bfad mYN iek sfl PrIlFs idwlI ivc irhf, AudoN mYN ieho hmfrf jIvxf nftk zfierYkt kIqf sI.

svfl: AuQy hor zfierYktrF nfl vI kMm krn df mOkf imilaf?
jvfb: bfhroN vI zfierYktr afAuNdy sn ijvyN jrmnI qoN “iPwts bYnyvrqjL” afieaf. iPr iek b®fjLIlIan zfierYktr afieaf sI ijsny iek plya kIqf sI “trU hOrs” ihMdI ivc. iPr iek jfpfnI zfierYktr afieaf soljnsfqo, Ausny ihMdI ivc “kfbUkI” nfm df plya kIqf. bfkI iPr igrIsL krnfrz, pI[ aYl[ dysLpFzy afid vI gYst zfierYktrF dy qOr qy afAuNdy rihMdy sn. so iet vfjL ey vYrI QOro p®oPYsLnl t®yinMg. mqlb mYN awj jo vI hF Auh nYsLnl skUl afP zrfmf dI vjh nfl hF. AusqoN pihlF jVH itvfxf sfihb ny lfeI sI.

svfl: jo kuwJ qusIN nYsLnl skUl afP zrfmf ivc jfx qoN pihlF iswiKaf sI, kI Auh afDfr quhfzy AuQy jfx leI kfPI sI jF AuWQy jfky quhfnUM bfkIaF nfloN ijLafdf imhnq krnI peI?
jvfb: p®YktIkl qjLrbf qF myrf sfiraF qoN ijLafdf sI ijvyN aYkitMg, iemprovfeIjysLn, spIc afid ivc myry cMgy nMbr huMdy sn. iQAUrI kmjLor sI aqy Aus qoN ielfvf aMg®yjLI bhuq kmjLor sI. BfvyN mYN kflj pfs kIqf sI pr ijvyN quhfnMU pqf hI hY pMjfb ivc pMjfbI bolIdI sI. so aMg®yjLI dI iblkul p®Ykits nhIN sI qy sfrIaF klfsF aMg®yjLI ivc hI huMdIaF sn. ies leI mYnUM jLrf kMplYks mihsUs huMdf sI. bfkI kfnvYNt dy pVHy huMdy sn ijvyN nsIr (nsurdIn sLfh) vgYrf, ieh sfry pwt pwt agy®jLI boldy sn. so pihlF jLrf aOK hoeI. sfzy tIcr aYm[ ky[ rYxf ny myrI bYkgrfAuNz bfry pqf kIqf qy Ausny mYnMU AuqsLfihq kIqf ik jdoN vI mYnUM aMg®yjLI bolx ivc musLikl afvy qF mYN ihMdI jF pMjfbI bolx lwg ipaf krF. jy AusnUM myrI gwl smJ nhIN afvygI qF Auh afpy hI dUijaF qoN puwC ilaf krygf. ies nfl mYnuM kfPI sOK mihsUs hoeI. nfl hI Ausny mYnMU ieh vI ikhf ik aMg®yjLI vI iek jLrUrI cIjL hY ikAuNik ieh dunIaF dI BfsLf hY. Ausny mYnMU aMg®yjLI ivc ryzIE dIaF KbrF suxn qy aKbfr qy ikqfbF AuWcI AuWcI pVHn dI slfh idwqI.

svfl: nYsLnl skUl afP zrfmf qoN bfad?
jvfb: iek sfl rYprtrI `c kMm kIqf jo bhuq aOKf inkilaf. iPr mYN igaf iPlm ieMstIicAUt. ieh 1974 dI gwl hY ikAuNik jykr iQeytr krnf sI qF pihlF idn nMU nOkrI krnI pYxI sI qy rfq nMU iQeytr. pMjfbI, ihMdI ivc p®oPYsLnl iQeytr hY nhIN. pMjfb ivc itvfxf sfihb ny mfVI motI afdq pfeI hY lokF nMU pYsy Krc ky zrfmf dyKx dI pr iPr vI lok pfs vgYrf hI Bfldy rihMdy sn. lokF nMU nftk dyKx leI iqMn rupY Krcxy vfDU lwgdy sn. jy mYN bMgflI huMdf qF TIk sI ikAuNik bMgflI ivc p®oPYsLnl iQeytr hY sI jF gujrfqI ivc jF mrfTI ivc sI. afpxy pMjfb ivc pRoPYsLnl iQeytr dI rvfieq nhIN rhI.

svfl: quhfnMU ieh PYslf krn ivc koeI musLikl afeI ik iQeytr nfloN iPlm ivc jfxf hY?
jvfb: AunHF idnF ivc imzl isnmy dI mUvmYNt cwlI sI aqy irsLIkysL mukrjLI, guljLfr, bfsU cYtrjI, bfsU BwtfcfrIaf afid dIaF iPlmF bxn lwgIaF sn. bfad ivc bYnygl qy goibMd inhlfnI afid afP bIt iPlmF qoN afky imzl isnmy vwl hoey sn. ieh isnmf ijLafdf swt mfrdf sI. Bfvy isafsI sMkyq (polItIkl kOnotysLn) nhIN sI pr QIm bVy pfvrPuwl sn. ijvyN: aMkur, insLFq . myrf iDafn AuDr igaf. pihlF qF ieh sI ik iQeytr nfl bhuq ipafr rwiKaf qy iPlm gMdI cIjL lwgdI sI ikAuNik ijafdfqr vfh pMjfb ivc vI qy bfhr vI kmrsLIal isnmf nfl ipaf sI. kuJ afP bIt iPlmF mYN pMjfb ivc vI dyKIaF sn ijvyN afKrI Kwq, jfgqy rho, hIr rFJf afid.

iPr nYsLnl skUl afP zrfmf ivc sfnUM dunIaF Br dIaF iPlmF dyKx df mOkf imilaf. sfnUM sfl ivc iek vfr purfxIaF ijvyN siqafjIq rya dIaF iPlmF idKfAuNdy sn. AunHF iPlmF nMU dyK ky lwigaf ik mIzIam df koeI ksUr nhIN sgoN iPlmF bxfAux vfilaF df ksUr hY. so ies qrHF nfl iPlmF vwl Jukfa ho igaf. nfly gwl afriQkqf df vI sI. myrf Jukfa kmrsLIal isnmy vl nhIN sI. mYnUM lwgdf sI ik ijLMdgI dIaF myrIaF byisk loVF isnmf dy skdf hY iQeytr nhIN. AuNJ koeI vwzIaF afriQk KfhsLF nhIN sn. so jdoN mYN bMbeI phuMicaf vI qF iksy p®oizAusr nMU nhIN imilaf isvfey isLafm bYnygl dy. mYN iksy p®oizAusr kol afpxIaF qsvIrF nhIN lY ky igaf. mYN Aus nMU ikhf ik mYN ieMzIaf df most kuaflIPfeIz aYktr hF, iqMn sfl nYsLnl skUl afP zrfmf qy do slf iPlm ieMstIicAUt ivc irhf hF, mYnMU kMm idAu. mYnMU pqf sI ik kmrsLIal isnmy ivc myry ichry nMU lY ky AunHF nMU bhuq aOK hoxI sI ik ies bMdy nMU pfeIey ikwQy, nF qF ieh ivln lwgdf hY nF ieh hIro lwgdf hY qy nf kmyzIan.

so mYN bMby jf ky iQeytr sLurU kr idwqf. “mjHmf” dy nfm Qwly. iqMn cfr sflF ivc 15-20 plya kIqy. Auh plya iek do vfrI isLafm bYnygl ny vI dyKy. ies sdkf Coty Coty rol kIqy, iek do vfrI Aus dIaF iPlmF ivc. “afkrosL” vfjL ey brykQrU. ies iPlm krky bfkI bMidaF, ijvyN siqafjIq rya, afid df myry vwl iDafn igaf ik ieh tylyNtz bMdf hY. iPr AunHF dIaF iPlmF ivc kMm kIqf. “arD swiqaf” bnx nfl mYnMU kmrsLIal isnmy ny vI kbUl kr ilaf.

svfl: jo pihlIaF CotIaF CotIaF iPlmF dI gwl kIqI hY Auh ikhVIaF sn?
jvfb: irlIjL hox vflI pihlI sI “sLfied”. Aus ivc iek anieMplfiez qy kOimk iksm df ipafrf ijhf krYktr sI. gfxy vI sn Aus iPlm ivc. jfxIik Auh iek sYmI kmrsLIal iPlm sI.

svfl: ijqnI dyr qusIN iPlm ieMstIcIAUt ivc rhy Aus dOrfn vI koeI “afPr” afeI?
jvfb: iPlm ieMstIcIAUt df splfeI aYNz zImFz vflf knsYpt sI. blik AuWQy myry dfKly bfry vI QoVHI kMtrovrsI sI ik ies bMdy nMU ieMzstrI ivc Byj ky iesdI ijLMdgI Krfb krn vflI gwl hY ikAuNik iesny ikqy iPwt nhIN hoxf. AudoN igrIsL krnfrz vI AunHF dy borz ivc sI. Ausny ikhf ik ieh PYslf krn vfly afpF kOx huMdy hF? afpF qF tylyNitz bMdf dfKl krnf. Auhdf nwk motf hY jF ichry Aupr dfg hn afid gwlF ieh sfzI problm nhIN. ies gwl df mYnMU bfad ivc pqf lwgf. AuWQy aYtIicAUz ieh huMdf ik ieMzstrI nMU ivlyn cfhIdy hn, hIro cfhIdy hn, kmyzIan cfhIdy hn vgYrf vgYrf. ho skdf hY ik iksy hwd qwk Auh TIk vI hox. jykr bMidaF nMU muhry kMm nf imly qF ikAuN AunHF nMU tryNz kr kr suwtI jfAu. ies krky iPlm ieMMstIcIAUt dIaF iPlmF ivc mYnMU qy nsIr nMU rol Gwt imldf sI. gfxy leI qF sfzy bfry soicaf hI nhIN jFdf sI. nsIr nMU iPr dUjy sfl ivc iek do gfxy imly sn qy mYnMU vI iek gfxf suirMdr Zwzf ny iPlm ieMstIcIAUt dI iPlm ivc idwqf. ieh iPlmF izplomf iPlmF khfAuNdIaF sn.

myry iPlm ieMstIcIAUt jfx bfry vI iek idlcsp khfxI hY. sfzy iek bIbI huMdI sI Ausdf iek ieMzstrIailst dosq sI ijsny mYnMU hYmlYt nftk ivc dyiKaf sI. Ausny mYnMU afPr kIqI ik jy mYN iPlm ieMstIcIAUt jfxf cfhF qF Auh myrf Krc dyvygf. Ausny mYnMU iek mhIny df iqMn sO ruipaf aYzvFs dy idwqf pr bfad ivc mYnMU koeI pYsf nhIN Byijaf. so ies qrHF Ausny mYnMU Dwkf dy ky iPlm ieMstIcIAUt ivc dfKl krvf idwqf aqy bfkI tfeIm qF iksy nf iksy qrHF lMG hI igaf. pihly sfl jLrf aOK hoeI. pMjfb gOrimMt ny vI mYnMU vjIPf sYNksLn kr idwqf pr Auh afieaf AudoN jdoN mYN iPlm ieMstIcIAUt pfs kr ilaf. Auh pYsf bMby myry kMm afieaf. pr ieMstIcIAUt ivc dosqF imwqrF dy isr AuWpr hI kMm cilaf. ijvyN nsIr sI, iek do hor dosq sn. myry Pfdr ny vI kwuJ pYsy Byjy sn. iPr igrIsL krnfrz ny mYnMuU afiPs bulf ky ikhf ik CuwtIaF ivc iek iPlm kr lY. hflFik ijMnf icr asIN ividafrQI sF Aunf icr bfhr kMm nhIN kr skdy sI. pr Ausny mYnMU iek bwicaF dI iPlm idvf idwqI. Ausdf mYnMU qkrIbn sfZy iqMn hjLfr ruipaf iml igaf ijs nfl myrf pUrf sfl lMG igaf.

svfl: qusIN ijLafdf afrt iPlmF kIqIaF hn. kI afrt iPlmF ivc kMm krn dI quhfzI afpxI cox sI?
jvfb: mYN iPlm ieMstIcIAUt iehI soc ky igaf sI ik mYN irsLIkysL mukrjI, guljLfr, bfsU cYtrjI, isLafm bYnygl dIaF iPlmF ivc kMm krnf hY. KusLiksmqI nfl mYN qy nsIr aYsy tfeIm phuMcy jdoN ieh isnmf AuWT irhf sI. ies krky sfnUM dohF nUM lwgBg hr awCy iPlm-mykr nfl kMm imilaf.

svfl: ieh soc kdoN qoN quhfzy mn ivc afeI ik ies iksm dy iQeytr jF iPlm ivc kMm krnf hY?
jvfb: soc qF mn ivc bcpn qoN hI sI. ipMz ivc qF koeI isnmf nhIN sI. hfeI skUl qwk musLikl nfl mYN 10 jF 12 iPlmF dyKIaF hoxgIaF. bfad ivc pitafly phuMc ky dyKxIaF sLurU kIqIaF. Auh iPlmF kuJ nf kuJ soc idmfg ivc jLrUr pfAuNdIaF sn. hr iPlm qoN bfad mYN do GMty ieDr AuDr GuMmdf rihxf qy sVk Aupr jo “izspyartI” (nf brfbrqf) idsdI sI ijvyN iek pfsy koeI lMgVf, lUlf jF grIb afdmI hoxf qy dUjy pfsy kfrF motrF hoxIaF. so ieh “izspyartI” mMn nMU JMjoVdI sI. luiDafxy iek rylvy pul hY jo isvl lfeIn nMU aYDr nfl joVdf hY. Aus pul Aupr bhuq sfry iBKfrI bYTdy sn. Coty Coty bwcy moiZaF Aupr cuwk ky sfeIkl pfr krfAuNdy sn. sLfied AusnMU AuWcf pul kihMdy hn. so bwcy bfbU df sfeIkl moiZaF Aupr rwKky pfr krfky 5 pYsy jF 10 pYsy lYNdy sn. AusqoN pihlF myry Pfdr iksy kys ivc “ienvflv” ho gey sn bysLwk bfad ivc brI ho gey sn pr Auh Cy mhIny bVy aOKy sn. mYN AudoN 6-7 sfl df hovFgf qy mYN cfh dI dukfn Aupr BFzy DoNdf huMdf sI. mYnMU Xfd hY ik Ausy islisly ivc mF mYnMU nfl lY ky jwj dy Gr geI ik dyKo myry Coty Coty bwcy hn. mYnMU Xfd hY ik mYN mF df dupwtf iKwc ky ikhf ik mF mYnMU BuwK lwgI hY. jwj dI jnfnI do rotIaF qy guV dI roVI lYky af geI. so ieho ijhy iemyjjL (id®sLF) ny aMdr soc pYdf kIqI. bfad ivc mYN dosqF koloN bhuq kuJ isWiKaf. mYnMU bhuq cMgy dosq imly hn. pitafly ivc vI qy bfhr vI. iPr itvfxf sfihb nfl ieho ijhy plya kIqy ijvyN “rwqf sflU”, “aDUry supny,” “cmkOr dI gVHI,” afid. ienHF cIjLF nfl soc vDdI geI.

svfl: kI ies smyN dOrfn qusIN sfihq vI pVHdy rhy?
jvfb: “PrYNklI” mYN sfihq ijLafdf nhIN piVHaf, pr mYN lokF koloN suxdf irhF. AunHF lokF ivc bYTdf irhF hF jo sfihq pVHdy sI. aYn[ aYs[ zI[ vyly mYN QoVHf ijhf piVHaf. bfkI mYgjLIn afrtIkl vgYrf pVHdf irhF pr gMBIr rUp ivc sfihq pVHn dI Gft ajy vI mihsUs huMdI hY.

svfl: pitafly qoN lYky idwlI qy bfad ivc vI sfrIaF musLiklF nfl lVHn dI sLkqI ikwQoN imldI rhI hY? ikhVI cIjL ny aYnIaF aOiKafeIaF dy bfvjUd cldy riKaf?
jvfb: mYnMU lwgdf ik sLkqI qF glIaF ivcoN hI imlI hoAU. bfkI bMidaF nMU dyK ky ik ijhVy bMdy sfQoN vI Qwly af. Auh vI iksy qrHF ijAuNdy hsdy hn qy AuWpr AuWTx dI koisLsL krdy hn. iesy cIjL ny mYnMU DIrj idwqf. idmfg ivc kdI ieh nhIN sI ik Plfny ny cMgf Jwgf pfieaf hY jF Aus kol vDIaf sfeIkl jF skUtr hY, myry kol vI hoxf cfhIdf. aijhf kdI idmfg ivc nhIN afieaf. loVF Gwt sn. sLfied ieh sbr hI myry kMm afieaf.

svfl: bMbeI ivc iPlmF `c jfx qoN pihlF iks iksm dy zrfmy krdy rhy?
jvfb: dysL pFzy df iek plya kIqf. Auh kfmryz ny. keI vfrI cIn vI gey hn. sfzf Cy sO rupey df bwjt sI. iksy ny sO dy idwqf, dInf pfTk ny 200 idwqy, nsIr ny 200 idwqf. iPr p®Ys ny sfnMU bhuq slfihaf. iPr bfkI bMdy vI afky plya dyKx lwgy ijvyN jfvyd aKqr vgYrf. so sfnMU iek qswlI ijhI imlI. bfsU BwtfcfrIaf kol iek jgh ivhlI peI sI Ausny Auh sfnMU rIhrsl krn leI dy idwqI nhIN qF asIN bIc Aupr rIhrsl krdy sI jF zrfmy ivcly iksy aYktr dy Gr kr lYxI. iek aYktr hspqfl ivc pVHdf sI qy stUzYNt XUnIan df p®YjLIzYNt sI. so kdI Ausny rIhrsl stUzYNt XUnIan dy hfl ivc krvf dyxI. iek vfrI bIc qy rIhrsl krdy sI qF mINh af igaf qF asIN rYstorYNt ivc vV gey. cfh df afrzr dy ky plya dIaF lfeInF pVHn lwg pey. jd nMU cfh Kqm ho geI. rYstorYNt ivc BIV hox krky AuWTxf pYxf sI. asIN iek iek cfh df hor afrzr dy idwqf. ies qrHF pUrI rIhrsl krn leI iqMn iqMn cfhF pIxIaF peIaF.

svfl: Aus smyN zrfmy ivc quhfzy nfl hor ikhVy aYktr sn?
jvfb: sLurU ivc mYN sI, roihnI hqFgVI sI, mdn jYn sI. ies qoN ielfvf bMby ivc aYktr stUzIE huMdf sI ijwQy mYN nOkrI vI kIqI. Aus ivcoN PjLl Kfn, ainl kpUr, suirMdr gOqm (mhFBfrq vflf) afid sfzy nfl sn. nsIr vI sfzy nfl huMdf sI qy AusdI pqnI rqnf vI. nsIr nMU qF vYsy ieMstIicAUt dOrfn hI insLFq iPlm iml geI sI. so Aus ihsfb nfl nsIr myry qoN QoVHf ijhf sOK nfl AuWpr afieaf. pihlIaF cfr iPlmF Ausny isLafm bYnygl nfl hI kIqIaF hn.

svfl: ijhVf iQeytr qusIN bMbeI ivc krdy sI kI Auh rotI ijqny pYsy dy idMdf sI?
jvfb: pYsy iQeytr qoN nhIN sn imldy, Auh qF mYN nOkrI krdf sI. iesnMU isafxp kho jF ikvyN vI, bMby afky mYN afpxy afp nMU ikhf ”Em purI, Auh pMj sflF dI ty®inMg nMU prHy rwK.’ Bfv myry ivc eIgo nhIN sI. mYN tfeIp krn dI nOkrI krn nMU iqafr sI ijs ivcoN Cy swq sO mhInf dI afmdnI hovy. AudoN mYN dfrU nhIN sI pINdf, isgrt nhIN sI pINdf ijLafdf. kdI zwbI nhIN sI KrIdI, isrP iek jF do isgrt KrId lYxy. so aYktr stUzIE ivc nOkrI kIqI pVHfAux dI.

svfl: kdI mn ivc isLkfieq nhIN sI AuBrI ik mYN pMj sfl aYkitMg dI t®yinMg kIqI hY. iPr mYN ieh kI kr irhF?
jvfb: isLkfieq qF ivc ivc AuBrdI rihMdI hY jdoN df mYN jMimaF. pr isLkfieq df kYQfriss ho jFdf irhf. hmysLf mYnMU ikqy nf ikqy sLFqI iml jFdI sI. pitafly pVHdf mYN gurdvfry clf jFdf sI. AuQy bYT ky mYnMU cMgf lwgdf BfvyN “iricAuilstk” ZMg dy pUjf pfT ivc myrf XkIn nhIN sI. iesy qrHF bMby kdI kdI mYN crc clf jFdf ikAuNik Auh nyVy sI. soc afpxy bfry hI irhf huMdf pr AuQoN dI sLFqI nfl mn jLrf hOlf ho jFdf. jF iPr kdI GuMmx clf igaf smuMdr dy iknfry. so ies qrHF iek kYQfriss ho jFdf sI. Bfv Aus gm nMU “cYnlfeIj” krn df rfh imldf irhf.

svfl: afkrosL qoN bfad ikvyN iPlmF imlIaF, iek dm jF holI holI?
jvfb: afkrosL qoN pihlF mYN 30-35 iPlmF kr cuwikaf sI. pr iPr vI mYN rihMdf ikrfey Aupr sI, myry Pfdr nfl sn. asIN iewkTy rihMdy sI 600 rupey mhInf ikrfey Aupr. arD swiqaf kfmXfb hox qoN bfad do sflF dy aMdr aMdr mYN apxf Gr lY ilaf. Bfv aYnf Prk ipaf. ‘arD swiqaf’ qoN pihlF 40 iPlmF krky vI mYN afpxf Gr nhIN lY skdf sI. bfad ivc imks iksm dIaF iPlmF imlIaF jo aYnIaF kmrsLIal vI nhIN sI qy aYnIaF afrt iksm dIaF vI nhIN, ijvyN pwQr, nfsUr. AunHF iPlmF qoN mYnMU Gr lYx jogy pYsy iml gey. myrf rvweIaf ieh irhf ik jdoN koeI cMgI iPlm `c mYN kMm kr irhF - ijvyN jdoN qms bx rhI hY - qF mYN dUsrI iPlm nhIN krMUgf. iesy qrHF izskvrI afP ieMzIaf dy zyZ sfl dy dOrfn mYN isLafm bYnygl nfl irhf. ivc ivc iek mhIny ivc iek hPqf mYN “kfkf jI” vflf sIrIal kIqf. pr hor koeI kmrsLIal iPlm nhIN kIqI Aus dy dOrfn.

svfl: iehdy nfl koeI Prk qF nhIN pYNdf ik iek vfrI jy qusI ivdzrfa kr lAu qF bfad ivc quhfnMU musLikl afvy hor iPlmF p®fpq krn dI?
jvfb: nhIN ies mfmly ivc myrf rvweIaf bhuq “aYrogYNt” (svYmfnI) iksm df hY. mYN kihMdf hF ik sfly mYnUM lYxgy qFhI jy AunHF nMU myrI loV hovygI nhIN qF kmrsLIal isnmy vfly sfnMU ikAuN lYxgy. so ieh myrI AunHF p®qI QoVHI ijhI afkV hY. loV qF AunHF nMU rihMdI hY ikAuNik ivc ivc keI rol aYsy huMdy hn jo ickny ichry dy krn vfly nhIN huMdy. Aus ivc kMm krn vfly bMdy dI loV hMdI hY jo aYkitMg kr skdf hovy. ijvyN hux ipCly iqMn ku sfl qoN ieh t®YNz hY ik iPlmF df bwjt Gwt rwKdy hn ikAuNik rItrn ijLafdf nhIN huMdI. so Auh nvyN muMzy kuVIaF lwBdy rihMdy hn, ijhnF nUM pYsy nf dyxy pYx. ivc iek awDf krYktr aYktr lY lNdy hn ijvyN anuUpm Kyr jF gulsLn grovr jF Em purI jF nsIr. so ies qrHF bYlyNs ijhf bxf lYNdy hn ik nvF muMzf kuVI qy ivc iek do cMgy krYktr aYktr jo khfxI cuwk ky qurn. so hux ieh knsYpt cl irhf hY.

svfl: bhuqy lok ieMzstrI dy imwQy hoey ajMzy muqfbk cldy hn pr lgdf hY ik qusIN iek afpxf ivakqIgq ajMzf rwiKaf hoieaf hY. kI ieh gwl TIk hY?
jvfb: hF iblkul. ijs qrHF ipCly CyaF mhIinaF ivc mYN 10-12 iPlmF nMU juafb idwqf hflFik do mhIny mYN ivhlf bYTf irhf Gr, istI afP jLuafey qoN bfad. ivc 15 ku idn isLafm bYnygl dI nvIN iPlm kIqI, pursL. pMj mhIny istI afP jLuafey ivc lwg gey . istI afP jLuafey qoN iekdm pihlF mYN krMt kIqI sI jo 18 idn ivc bxI ikAuNik AusdI lokysLn bVI sImq sI. AuhI Gr, AuhI Kyq. Ausdf bwjLt sI isrP 15 lwK.

svfl: quhfnMU rol iqafr krn leI sLUitMg qoN pihlf ikqnf ku tfeIm imldf hY?
jvfb: ieh skirpt Aupr inrBr krdf hY. kuJ aijhy ikrdfr huMdy hn ijnHF nMU qusIN iek dm jfx lYNdy ho aqy kuwJ ikrdfr aijhy huMdy hn ijhnF nUM smJxf musLikl huMdf hY. Aus leI pVHnf pYNdf hY. imsfl dy qOr qy jykr ieQoN dy eysLIan lokF bfry koeI gMBIr iPlm hovy myrf mqlb ihstOrIkl iPlm hovy qF Aus leI ijLafdf vkq lwgygf Aus kMplYkstI nMU AuBfrn leI arD swiqaf vfly ikrdfr dy mukfbly. arD swiqaf ivc isrP iek imzl klfs dy eImfndfr bMdy dI Prst®ysLn pysL krnI sI ijs qoN mYN jfxMU sI. Aus nUM iqafr krn leI koeI aOK nhIN hoeI isvfey motr sfeIkl clfAuxf iswKx qoN, jo mYnMuU pihlF nhIN sI afAuNdf.

svfl: rol iqafr krn vyly qusIN kI kI dyKdy ho?
jvfb: pihlF qF skirpt cMgI qrHF cfr pMj vfrI pVHdf hF. iPr Aus ikrdfr dI bYkgrfAuNz bfry jfxdf hF. ijvyN jo iPlm mYN ieQy kIqI hY brinMg sIjLn Ausdy ikrdfr dI bYkgrfAuNz jfnx leI mYN bMbeI amrIk igwl nfl bYT ky slfh kIqI ik ieh bMdf ikho ijhy mfhOl ivcoN kYnyzf igaf hovygf. sfnMU ieh lwgf ik ieh bMdf ijLafdf piVHaf iliKaf nhIN igaf qy nf hI jfx qoN pihlF bhuqy pYsy vflf sI. iPr amrIk ny iek do sIn ilKy jo BfvyN ies iPlm leI iPlmfey nf jfx pr iPr vI Auh sIn ies iPlm dy ikrdfr dI bYkgrfAuNz smJx leI bVy iPwt bYTdy hn.

bfkI jykr koeI iPjIkl kMm hovy AusnUM krnf iswKdf hF. ijvyN iPlm susmn ivc buxn df kMm sI qF mYN buxnf iswiKaf. iesy qrHF istI afP jLuafey leI mYN pihlF irksLf iKwcxf iswiKaf. ijvyN aslI ijLMdgI ivc huMdf hY ik pfn bxfAux vflf bMdf quhfzy nfl gwlF vI krI jFdf qy pfn vI bxfeI jFdf, pfn vwl dyKdf vI nhIN. jykr pfn bxfAux df sIn hovy qF quhfnUM ieh inpuMnqf afAuxI cfhIdI hY. iPlm drsLk nMU ieh lwgy ik qusIN bhuq sflF qoN ieh kMm krdy af rhy ho. so iPjIkl p®Ykits hoxI bhuq jLrUrI hY.

svfl: qusIN istI afP jLuafey ivc dysLI aqy ivdysLI dohF krUjL (kMm krn vflIaF tolIaF) nfl kMm kIqf hY. AunHF ivckfr kI kI Prk jF smfnqfvF njLr aeIaF?
jvfb: istI afP jLuafey bhuq imhnq nfl bxI hY, iPlm sLurU hox qoN pihlF skirpt pUrI iqafr sI. iesy qrHF zfierYktr goibMd inhflnI dIaF iPlmF dI vI pUrI skirpt iqafr huMdI hY. sfzy kol ieDr dy mukfbly rIsorsjL (sfDn) Gwt huMdy hn, iekAupmYNt (sfjLo smfn) afid dy ihsfb nfl qy rihx sihx qy Kfx pIx dIaF shUlqF afid. hflFik Kfx pIx jF rihx sihx nMU mYN ijLafdf aihmIaq nhIN idMdf.

byisk Prk ieh hY ik jykr ivdysLI krUjL (kMm krn vflIaF tolIaF) kol sfjLo smfn pUrf nf hovy qF Auh stwk (aV) ho jFdy hn pr sfzy kMm krn vfly koeI nf koeI ivAuNq lwB lYNdy hn. imsfl dy qOr jy sfzy kol zOlI nhIN. qF sfzy kMm krn vfly hspqfl dI vIlH cyar nfl kMm sfr lYxgy. ies qrHF AuhnF kIqf hY. kYmrf mYn Ausdy Aupr bYT jFdf hY. iesy qrHF kryn dI QF kMm sfrn leI pulI nfl rwsy dI vrqoN krky kMm clf ilaf jFdf hY. JUlf ijhf bxf ky kYmrf mYn kYmrf lY ky Aus Aupr bih igaf qy rwsf iKwc ilaf. Auh kryn bx geI. myrf iKafl hY ivdysLI kMm krn vfly ies qrHF dIaF hflqF ivc kMm nhIN kr skdy.

svfl: kmrsLIal qy afrt isnmy df afps ivc iks qrHF df irsLqf hY?
jvfb: ipCly 10-12 sfl dOrfn ieh irsLqf bdilaf hY. hux kmrsLIal isnmy vfly iQeytr dI kfPI iewjLq krn lwg pey hn. hux nYsLnl skUl afP zrfmf qoN afAux vfly bMdy dI kdr krdy hn. pihlF iksy ny Ausdf nfm vI nhIN sI suixaf. jdoN afrt iPlmF kmrsLIal pwDr Aupr kfmXfb hoeIaF ijvyN arD swiqaf, afkrosL, mMQn afid qF kmrsLIal isnmy df vqIrf bdilaf hY. donF ivckfr hfly vI iek sLIqlqf (kolznYs) hY jo myry iKafl ivc glq hY. nF qF sfnMU AunHF nMU ilqfVnf cfhIdf nf AunHF nMU sfnMU. ieh PYslf lokF nUM krn dyvo kI AunHF ny kI dyKxf. mYN ieh nhIN kihMdf ik kmrsLIal isnmf bMd kr idAu, pr AusnMU QoVHf tystPul qF bxfAu. ishqmMd mnorMjn hoxf cfhIdf. kmrsLIal iPlm 25 hPqy cldI hY qF TIk hY aqy sfzI iPlm 10 hPqy cl jfey qF vI TIk hY. jy AunHF dI khfxI ielstryitz vIklI ivc CpdI hY qF sfzI khfxI “isrjxf” ivc CwpdI hY. dusLmxI vflI cIjL nhIN hoxI cfhIdI ikAuNik sfzIaF lfeInF alwg alwg hn. do alwg alwg iksm dIaF dukfnF hn. mukfblf nhIN hY. pihlF dy “no rIlysLnisLwp” qoN hux iek zYPIinwt rIlysLnisLWp bixaf hY. hux bMdy iek dUjy qoN awK nhIN curfAuNdy BfvyN QoVHI bhuq aMdrUnI Bfvnf hY ijs ivc iPlmI mIzIey df vI rol hY. ijvyN mYN qy nsIr (nsurdIn sLfh) ny aYnIaF kmrsLIal iPlmF vI kIqIaF hn pr AunHF ny kdy vI sfnMU kvrpyj Aupr nhIN idKfieaf. ijvyN istI afP juafey iek vwzI iPlm sI. aYQy dy aKbfrF ny AusdI kvrpyj Aupr kvryj idwqI pr ieMzIaf dy iPlmI aKbfrF ny aijhf nhIN kIqf. hF jykr AunHF nMU kuwJ msflf imldf hovy ijvyN ik Em purI dI sLfdI ivc gVbV ho rhI hY, iPr pf dyxgy kvrpyj qy. pr jy koeI avfrz ijwiqaf qF iek lfeIn pf dyxgy. ikAuNik ieh mIzIaf p®oPYsLnlI pyz mIzIaf hY. mYN qF keI vfrI mjLfk ivc AunHF nMU kihMdf huMdf ik qusIN kvrpyj dy ikMny pYsy lYNdy ho? pr iet zjLnot bfdr mI. awj qwk mYN kdy pbilst (msLhUrI krn vflf) nhIN riwKaf. iksy qrHF dI pbilstI Aupr koeI Krcf nhIN kIqf. bfkI jo nYsLnl p®Ys hY ijvyN sMzy afid, Auh bfkfiedf jgh idMdy hn pr iPlm ieMzstrI dI p®Ys sfnUM iegnor krdI hY. hF jy AuhnF kol koeI sYnsysLnl msflf hovy qF gwl hor hY. iet iejL ey vIsLIas srkl. ies ivc izstrIibAusLn, p®ozksLn, p®Ys afid sB iekwTy hn. ijvyN siqafjIq rya nMU nYsLnl p®Ys ny aYnHF cwuikaf pr qusIN iPlmIN p®Ys vwl ingHf mfro. mYnUM iek vI iPlmI mYgjLIn idKf idAu ijhny sfzy kOmI hIro siqafjIq rya Aupr kvr storI idwqI hovy. AusdI mOq qy iPlm ieMzstrI ny iek idn dI CuwtI vI nhIN kIqI. hflFik AunHF df koeI Cotf ijhf aYktr vI mr jfvy qF iek idn dI CuwtI kr idMdy hn sLUitMg dI.

svfl: afrt isnmy dI aYs vyly kI hflq hY?
jvfb: afrt isnmy nMU apxI bolI bdlxI pYxI hY. hux imzl klfs qoN ielfvf hor lok vI afrt isnmy nUM dyKx lwgy hn. pr ajy vI iesdf koeI izstrIibAusLn sYNtr nhIN hY. sfnUM cfhIdf hY ik asIN iPlmF sOKIaF bxfeIey. afpxI bolI qy afpxy PfrmUly nMU iesqymfl krIey. ijvyN imAUjLk, zFs koeI mfVI gwl nhIN hY pr asIN AuhnMU mfVf bxf idwqf hY. dIar iejL no poietrI. PrjL kro ik qusIN koeI khfxI suxfAuxI hY iksy ipMz ivc jf ky. jykr qusIN Aus khfxI nMU gf ky suxfAu qF ijLafdf lok suxn afAuxgy. so qusIN gf ky suxf idAu. hux afrt isnmy nMU srkfr Aupr inrBr krn dI bjfey afpxf PfrmUlf lwB ky cwlxf pYxf hY. iPlm nMU afpxy pYr Aupr afp KVf hoxf pYxf hY. Aus ivc aYnI qfkq hY aqy bhuq bMdy itkt lY ky iPlm dyKx leI iqafr hn. afP bIt iPlm bxfAux vfly nMU bYT ky socxf pYxf hY ik Auh ies cwkr ivc nf pvy ik isrP nYsLnl iPlm PYstIvl ivc jfxf hY ijWQy AusdI vfh vfh hoAU. AunHF nMU afpxf PfrmUlf vrqxf cfhIdf hY ijvyN kmrsLIal isnmf swB kwuJ vrqdf hY. kmrsLIal isnmy ny afrt isnmy qoN vI iswiKaf hY so afrt isnymy nMU vI kmrIsLIal isnmy qoN iswKxf pYxf hY. kmrsLIal isnmy ny afrt iPlmF dy PfrmUly nMU vriqaf hY ijvyN puils ivBfg jF nyqfvF nfl sbMDq iPlmF bxf ky. qusIN dyKo ik 1984 qo bfad bxn vflIaF ikqnIaF iPlmF ivc nyqfvF dy kYrktr afey hn. AusnMU mOilk bxfAux leI swcIaF GtnfvF vI pfAuNdy hn, msfly dy nfl nfl. sfnMU vI ieh mMn ky clxf cfhIdf ik sfnMU lokF nfl vrqxf cfhIdf hY. ijvyN goibMd inhlfnI iPlm bxfAuNdf hY qF ieh gwl mMn ky cldf ik mYN lokF qwk iPlm phuMcfAuxI hY qy iPlm PYstIvl qy tyk nhIN rwKxI. ies qrHF soc ky hI qusIN afrt isnmy ivc kfmXfb ho skdy ho.

svfl: goibMd inhlfnI qy isLafm bYnygl qoN ielfvf nvIN pIVHI dy vI koeI nvyN zfierYktr afrt isnmy vwl af rhy hn?
jvfb: hF, ivnod copVf hY, kuMdn sLfh hY, seId imrjf, gOqm GosL, ckrvrqI, siqafjIq df bytf p®dIp rya hY , kyqn mihqf hY, suirMdr Zwzf afid hn. ies qrHF Gwto Gwt pMjfh jvfn bMdy hoxgy. jy AunHF nMU cMgy mOky qy sfDn imlx qF Auh vDIaf iPlmF bxf skdy hn.

svfl: hor kI kI musLklF hn vDIaf iPlm bxfAux dy rfh ivc? jF afrt isnmy dy vDx Pulx ivc?
jvfb: iek cIjL afrt isnmy nMU nhIN CzxI cfhIdI sI jo ik Aus ivc KfsIaq sI Auh sI nvyN klfkfrF nUM lY ky kMm krnf. pr AuhnF ny vI dUjy isnmy vFg stfr isstm pYdf kr idwqf hY. jfxIik hux nsrUdIn sLfh, Em purI, sLbfnf afjLmI, simqf pfitl afid afrt isnymy dy stfr bx gey hn. pr afrt isnmf nMU ieh socxf cfhIdf ik jdoN AunHF ny sfnMU ilaf sI qF asIN kuJ vI nhIN sI. nvIN pONd nMU Ausy qrHF lYNdy rihxf cfhIdf ijvyN pihlF lYNdy sI. hux afrt isnymy ivc ies qrHF lwgdf hY ik koeI vI afrt iPlm bxfAux vflf afpxI iPlm nMU sPl nhIN bxf skdf bgYr simqf, sLbfnf jF nsrUdIn sLfh ley ibnF. pr ies nfl iek musLikl KVHI huMdI hY ik ieh aYktr sfrI Aumr Gwt pYsy lY lY ky QoVHI kMm kr skdy hn. AunHF dIaF vI rojLfnf ijLMdgI dIaF loVHF hn. asIN koeI ijLafdf pYsy dI mMg nhIN krdy. pr jy quhfzf bwjt 10 lwK hI hY qF nf lvo Em nMU jF nsIr nMU, nvyN bMdy nfl kMm clfE. jF nsIr nMU puwCo ik pMj idn mihmfn kflfkfr dy qOr qy kMm kr dyvy. kyqn mihqf ny iPlm “holI” sfZy pMj lwK ivc bxfeI. iPlm ienstIicAuUt dy muMzy ley, qy AuQy hI sLUitMg leI QF rwKI qy rihx leI QF muPq dy idwqI. asIN jfky AuQy cfr cfr idn kMm kIqf. AunHF ny sfnMU 3000 rupY PVf idwqy dkisLnf dy qOr qy. asIN ikhf TIk hY beI ieh vI rwK lAu. pr jykr Auh mYnMU jF nsIr nMU kihMdy ik do mhIny cfhIdy hn qy quhfnMU iqMn hjLfr rupY dyvFgy. iPr asIN ikQoN cly jFdy?

goibMd qy isLafm dI bVI vwzI dyx hY ik AunHF ny ikqny hI nvyN bMidaF nfl iPlm drsLkF dI jfn-pihcfx krvfeI hY jo hux kmrsLIal isnmy ivc vI kMm krdy hn ijvyN simqf sI. hux sLbfnf, amrIsL, mYN, anIqf kMvr, kulBUsLn KrbMdf, afid hF. Auh jf ky nftk dyKdy hn jF dUjy lokF qoN jfky pqf krdy hn qy iPr nvyN bMidaF nMU ieMtroizAUs krdy hn.

svfl: hux afrt iPlmF dy kfPI lok tYlIivXn vwl af gey hn. pr tI[vI[ styt kMtrol hyT hY. ijhVI gwl Auh iek afjLfd iPlmsfjL dy qOr qy afpxI iPlm ivc kihMdy sI, kI AuhI gwl Auh tI[ vI[ Aupr kih skxgy?
jvfb: kuJ hwd qwk qF musLikl afAuNdI hY. iPr vI kuJ iPlmF aYsIaF afeIaF hn ijnHF bfry rOlf ipaf hY pr iPr vI Auh AunHF nMU idKfAuxIaF peIaF hn. jykr gOrimMt dI sYNsrisLp hY qF dUsry pfsy vI lok hn. cfhy Auh kfmryz hox jF isivl ilbrtI vfly jF sosLl grup hox. ijvyN bI[ jy[ pI[ dI mUvmYNt qy anMd ptvrDn ny iPlm bxfeI sI, ieh kort geI, qy kort ny irlIjL kr idwqI. iesy qrHF qms vyly hYdrfbfd ivc ryzIE stysLn sfV idwqf. tYlIkfst qoN do idn pihlF stya afrzr iml igaf iesnUM nf idKfAux df. pr iPr PYslf qms dy hwk ivc ho igaf ik ies ivc koeI glq nhIN, sfzf tYlIkfst hovygf. mqlb aYnI vI hnHyr grdI nhIN hY. pr sfnMU iqafr rihxf cfhIdf hY ik sfnMU ies leI ijLafdf myhnq krnI pYxI hY afpxy ivcfr lokF qwk phuMcfx leI. asIN keI vfrI pihlF hI zr jFdy hF ik sfzI qF srkfr ieho ijhI hY asIN aYsI iPlm nf bxfeIey. iesy qrHF inAu idwlI tfeImjL kfPI vDIaf iPlm sI, kfPI musLiklF afeIaF pr afiKr idKfeI geI. hux afh iPlm “pursL” bxI hY. ies ivc koeI smJOqf nhIN hY. ho skdf hY Aus ivc aOK afvy. pr nfl nfl ieh vI hY ik bMdy aYsy vI hn jo aOKy vyly quhfzy nfl moZy nfl moZf joV ky KVHn nUM iqafr hn. hnyHr grdI isrP srkfr hI nhIN pfAuNdI, hor bMdy vI pfAuNdy hn. ibhfr ivc jykr ds mjdUr mfr idMdy hF qF Auh srkfr nhIN mfrdI, bMdy mfrdy hn ijhVy ijLmINdfr ny jF dUjI jfq dy hn. hr cIjL sfnMU srkfr qy nhIN swutxI cfhIdI.

svfl: kuwJ tI[ vI[ sIrIalF bfry dwso?
jvfb: ienHF nMU apxF stYNzrz TIk krxf pvygf. keI sIrIal bhuq awCy hn. pMjfb Aupr iek cuwp sIrIal sI ijs ivc koeI zfielfg nhIN sI, aMq ivc isrP iek sLbd sI. ieh iek aOrq mMjU isMG ny bxfieaf sI. “Kyz” Ausdf nfm hY. ieh sfry dysL bfry dsdf hY. sB kuJ iek 12-14 sfl dy iswK muMzy nfl juiVaf hY. ieh swcIN hI quhfzy qy asr krdf hY.

svfl: iek cMgf zfierYktr kox huMdf hY? iek aYktr dy qOr qy AusdI aihmIaq dwso.
jvfb: zfierYktr ivc iek kfblIaq hoxI cfhIdI hY ik Auh aYktr nMU aYkitMg krky nf idKfvy blik Aus ivcoN kwZy. kuJ zfierYktrF nMU krky idKfAux df sLOk huMdf ik mYN afh cfhuMdf hF. Auhdy ivc ieh hY ik jykr aYktr bhuq cMgf krUgf qF isrP zfierYktr dI cMgI nkl hI krUgf, Ausdf afpxf koeI mOilk Xogdfn nhIN hovygf. jykr aYktr koloN koeI sIn inkl nhIN irhf qF cMgf zfierYktr AusnMU aiswDy ZMg nfl sIn df ipCokV afid smJf ky jF imsflF dy ky aYktr dy aMdroN Bfvnf kwZy. Aus nfl aYktr dI adfkfrI nklI nhIN lwgygI. aYktr dI isrjxf vI hovygI. dUjy, zfierYktr nMU iPlm dy jF iQeytr dy hr pwK dI smJ hoxI cfhIdI hY cfhy Auh kYmrf lYnjL hY, cfhy Auh kYmrf aYNgl hY jF lfieitMg hY. swB kfsy bfry byisk jfxkfrI hoxI jLrUrI hY. zfierYktr dI iPlm ivc ipqf vflI jgh hY. ijvyN ipqf cfhuMdf hY ik Ausdy bwcy ies qrHF dy hox ies qrHF zfierYktr df rol vI AuhI hoxf cfhIdf hY. Ausdf pUrf suBfa iek ijLMmyvfr bfp vflf hoxf cfhIdf hY.

svfl: jdoN koeI iPlm pUrI ho jFdI hY qF AusnMU afm qOr qy Aus dy zfierYktr dI iPlm ikhf jFdf hY. qusIN ies bfry ikvyN mihsUs krdy ho?
jvfb: jdoN kihMdy hn ik Plfny zfierYktr dI iPlm hY pr jy iksy aYktr ny Auhdy ivc cMgf kMm kIqf qF Ausdf nfm vI afAuNdf hY. iet vIkmjL kMplImYNtrI. PrjL kro “arD siqaf” iPlm lokF ny dyKI qF Aus ivcoN Em purI nMU ijLafdf pblIistI imlI, goibMd inhlfnI dy mukfbly, hflFik iPlm Ausny bxfeI hY.

svfl: kI kmrsLIal isnmf ivc vI ievyN hI huMdf hY?
jvfb: kwuJ zfierYktr hn ijvyN suBfsL GeI , rmysL iswpI AunHF df nfm vI afvygf jykr iPlm dy muwK aYktr df nfm afvygf. iesy qrHF sLkqI sfmMq, irsLIkysL mukrjI hn. pr kmrsLIal isnmf ivc krIb 80% iPlmF ivc hIro df hI nfm vwjdf hY. kmrsLIal isnymy ivc aijhy zfierYktr vI hn ijnHF nMU afAuNdf vI kuJ nhIN.

svfl: qusIN Bfrq dy sfry vDIaf qy cMgy zfierYktrF nfl kMm kIqf hY. qusIN ies bfry kuJ dwso ijvyN ik siqafjIq rya nfl kMm krky ikvyN lwgf?
jvfb: siqafjIq rya iek Kfs hI iPlm mykr sI ijsnMU iPlm dI sB pfsoN jfxkfrI sI. Auh skirpt vI ilK skdf sI, sMgIq bfry vI jfxdf sI, aYzIitMg, kYmry bfry, sfAuNz bfry, bhuq kuJ jfxdf sI. iesy krky AusnMU mYn afP rYnyiss kihMdy hn. AunHF nfl kMm krky mYnUM mihsUs hoieaf ik Auh bhuq sLFq aqy kfnstYNtl ieMprovfeIijMg - iek dm nvIaF cIjLF isrjL skx vflf ivakqI sI. Auh lokysLn qy phuMc ky vI nvIN cIjL apxf lYNdf sI, jy aYktr ny koeI nvIN cIjL kIqI qF AusnMU vI vrq lYxf, Bfv ik Auh “PlYksIvl” sI. iek vfrI Ausny ibjLlI cmkx df sIn lYxf sI qF dupihr nMU Kfxf KFdy KFdy nMU kuJ suwJ igaf. Ausny iek dm sfrf kMnsYpt bdl idwqf ikAuNik bwdl acfnk af cVHy sn. AusnMU pqf sI ik hux mINh pY jfvygf qy Ausny Auh sIn mINh ivc kr ilaf. Bfv Ausny p®qIkUl hflq nUM afpxy ihwq ivc vrq ilaf. Ausdy kol agFh dyKx dI sLkqI sI. ibjLlI cmkx df id®sL idKfAux leI Ausny iek nvF qy sfDf ZMg Koj ilaf. Ausny iek qslf lYky qy Aus ivc gUMd lfky qy sLIsLf BMn ky Coty Coty tukVy qsly ivc jV idwqy. vYlizMg dI msLIn nfl spfrk dy ky ibjLlI cmkx df iePYkt pYdf kr idwqf.

svfl: pMjfb dy lok quhfnMU pMjfbI iPlmF krky jfxdy hn Kfskr lokF aMdr quhfzy leI apxq “cMn p®dysI” qoN afeI hY. Aus iPlm ivc lokF nUM quhfzI bolI bhuq psMd afeI sI. pMjfbI iPlm ivc kMm krky qusIN Kwud ikvyN mihsUs kIqf?
jvfb: swB qoN vwzI cIjL qF ieh hY ik mYN “cMn p®dysI” qoN pihlF 10-12 iPlmF kr cuwkf sI. ies krky myrI pMjfbI bolx dI p®Ykits kfPI Gwt cwukI sI. ies iPlm ivc kwuJ cIjLF mYN nvIaF kIqIaF jo ik mYN pihlF kdI nhIN sI kIqIaF. iesdf mqlb ieh ik pMjfbI myrI mF bolI hY aqy mYN iesnUM Buwl nhIN sikaf. myrf ivcfr hY ik qusIN iksy nMU 50 sfl koTy ivc bMd kr idAu aqy kho ik jykr qMU pMjfbI bolI qF qyrI lwq BMn dyvFgy, qF vI Auh pMjfbI nhIN Buwlygf.

afpxIaF pMjfbI iPlmF bhuqIaF cMgIaF nhIN bxdIaF. pMjfhivaF ivc pMjfbI qy ihMdI dovyN iPlmF cMgIaF bxdIaF sn. bfad ivc pwCm df asr hoxf sLurU ho igaf qy iPlmF ivc msflf Brnf sLurU ho igaf. cfhy pMjfb, cfhy gujrfq, cfhy sfAUQ hovy hr pfsy GtIaF iPlmF bxn lwgIaF. ieh sfrf asr GtIaf ihMdI iPlmF df sI. bfkI pfsy qF cMgIaF mfVIaF dovyN qrHF dIaF iPlmF bxdIaF rhIaF hn pr pMjfb ivc mfVIaF hI bxnIaF sLurU ho geIaF.

svfl: ihMdusqn dIaF bfkI jLubfnF ivc iQeytr dI kfPI rvfieq hY. pMjfb ivc isrP Pok iQeytr hI msLhUr irhf hY. ipCly 10-15 sfl ivc pMjfbI iQeytr ny pMjfb dI isafsI siQqI dy bfvjUd kwuJ ivkfs kIqf hY pr pMjfbI iPlmF ivc ieh suDfr nhIN hoieaf. kI BivwK ivc pMjfbI iPlmF ivc kuJ suDfr hox dI afs hY?
jvfb: mYnMU nhIN lwgdf ik bMbeI qoN koeI afs rwKxI cfhIdI hY. ieh afs AunHF bMidaF qoN hoxI cfhIdI hY jo iesnMU mihsUs krdy hn. “cMn p®dysI” iek ihsfb nfl nvIN sLurUafq sI. bfad ivc itvfxf sfihb ny “lONg df ilsLkfrf” bxfeI jo ik mYN smJdf “cMn p®dysI” dy pwDr dI nhIN sI. so Bfv jykr cMgI sLurUafq ho jfvy qF hor lok vI ipwCy lwg pYNdy hn. ijhVy bMdy pMjfbI ivc cMgI iPlm bxfAux bfry mihsUs krdy hn AunHF nMU bxf dyxI cfhIdI hY. iesdI jLrUrq hY, iesdI jgh hY, iesnMU dyKx vfly mOjUd hn. mYN ieh iblkul Ausy ilhfjL nfl kih irhf hF ijvyN mYN ihMdI iPlmF bfry kih cukf hF. iPlmF afpxy pYrF Aupr KVHIaF hoxIaF cfhIdIaF hn qy myry iKafl ivc ho skdIaF hn. pMjfbI ivc iPlm bxfE, nfl AusnMU ihMdI ivc zwb kr lAu. bhuq jgh doBfsLI iPlmF bxdIaF hn. jy qusIN pihlF hI iqafr ho qF qusIN ieko smyN donF jLubfnF ivc iPlm bxf skdy ho. iek sLft pMjfbI ivc ho jfvy aqy Ausy hI sYWt qy AuhI sLft ihMdI ivc ho jfvy. ijhVy sInF ivc koeI zfielfg nhIN hn AuhnF df iek sIn nfl hI sr skdf hY. afriQk qOr qy isrP pMjfbI ivc iPlm bxfAuxf sLfied aYnf PfiedymMd nf hovy. jykr do BfsLfvF ivc hovy qF iek qF drsLkF dI igxqI vwD imldI hY, p®oizAusr dy pYsy jldI vfips afAuNdy hn. dUsrf pMjfb dy klcr nMU qusIN dUsry lokF nfl sFJf kr skdy ho ijnHF nMU pMjfbI nhIN afAuNdI. ***